Blade and Souls graphics are like 10x better than any other big budget mmorpg coming out this year... are you kidding me?
Heh. Don't think so. They're pretty good, but not phenomenally spectacular what you seem to make of them. But hey, if you're a fan of B&S, good for you, hope you'll enjoy it. I'm not gonna try to rain on your parade, just saying it as I see it. Personally I was more impressed by ArcheAge's graphics and TSW's environment and monster graphics. Oh, and GW2's environment graphics because of the artful design.
Oh i'm not a fan of any game, i remain objective so that I can judge them all by what they actually are... and graphically speaking BnS is way ahead of GW2.... some may prefer one style to another, but the actual quality of the graphics are night and day. But hey goggles be goggles.
You are far from objective, you've been bashing GW2 left and right. Get your own goggles off and maybe you are worth discussing with.
Blade and Souls graphics are like 10x better than any other big budget mmorpg coming out this year... are you kidding me?
Heh. Don't think so. They're pretty good, but not phenomenally spectacular what you seem to make of them. But hey, if you're a fan of B&S, good for you, hope you'll enjoy it. I'm not gonna try to rain on your parade, just saying it as I see it. Personally I was more impressed by ArcheAge's graphics and TSW's environment and monster graphics. Oh, and GW2's environment graphics because of the artful design.
Oh i'm not a fan of any game, i remain objective so that I can judge them all by what they actually are... and graphically speaking BnS is way ahead of GW2.... some may prefer one style to another, but the actual quality of the graphics are night and day. But hey goggles be goggles.
You are far from objective, you've been bashing GW2 left and right. Get your own goggles off and maybe you are worth discussing with.
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
I think it's safe to say I'm not "in love with the game" just look at my post history. That said, there's a huge difference between being objective, and using subjective reasoning to put down everything you see.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
AN objective person tends to let all the cards fall before they cite the significance of their hand.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
That...
Did you really just use that argument?
The best you can do is be aware of your bias, not be rid of them. Even in that case you can say what you think logically is best, but that is a matter of compensating for what you think your bias is.
Please don't say something that wrong again.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
Yeah, i knida remember your old "objective" posts from a while back.
There are some people who actually have good points that are negative about the game as well but they actually bother to get informed about the game.
GW2 ain't perfect, no game really is but to me it looks about as good as Tera or any other modern MMO. It looks a lot better than Rift or TOR for sure.
But sure, take some good screenshots from GW2 and from a bunch of other mmos, show them for a bunch of people and ask them which one they think looked dated (use none MMO players so you are sure they have no prior opinions about any game). That would be fair.
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
Just like your posts are logical because you are using logic and therefore are a logical person.
1. Only the person viewing can decide whether something is aesthetically pleasing or not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
2. If you're foisting your opinion on someone and trying to say that your subjectivity should be accepted by all as the only opinion. You're an arsehole. Yes, you Dinh.
3. Even journalists realise that their viewpoints are subjective in reviews, and act as such.
4. The videos are out there.
Conclusion: Click the videos in my sig. If you like what you see then the graphics are subjectively 'good,' if you don't then the graphics are subjectively 'bad.' There's nothing wrong with either opinion.
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
Just like your posts are logical because you are using logic and therefore are a logical person.
Do you know what a circular argument is?
Yes, I also know that people fresh outta a phil 101 course think they understand logic.
Graphical fidelity can be objective, but art cannot be objective. There are thousands upon thousands of reasons for htis and I don't want to have to take you through art school Dinh so you understand why that is.
To the OP. Have you ever seen the graphics in WOW? If so, why aren't you over there talkin' about crappy outdated graphics? Seriously, even the first GW looks worlds better than that craptacular manure farm. People think WOW is an acronym of world of warcraft, it's not, it's from all the reactions to it from people like me. Fire up the game, and "WOW, these graphics suck", or, "WOW, people pay a monthly fee to play this mess?", or, you get my drift.
I've played every top A+ title since PC Games are released, almost every MmoRPG - Hell I played Rotmg (Realms of the Mad God) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLcAI6qSjew which amazed me for over a full month now. See the grafics?
Grafics are a minor argument. Not a major and of course you can not exclude it. The overall composition is what makes a game enjoyable.
It is gameplay, that lets you stick with a game - not grafics. If I want grafics I install Crysis 1 including lots of mods. But what replay-value has Crysis 1? None.
More to the point: If I want awesome grafics, I turn off my PC and go in the woods, sea, lakes etc.
All your named type of Games, OT, will kneel down to GW2 mechanics. Every single one. You will see.
I've played every top A+ title since PC Games are released, almost every MmoRPG - Hell I played Rotmg (Realms of the Mad God) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLcAI6qSjew which amazed me for over a full month now. See the grafics?
Grafics are a minor argument. Not a major and of course you can not exclude it. The overall composition is what makes a game enjoyable.
It is gameplay, that lets you stick with a game - not grafics. If I want grafics I install Crysis 1 including lots of mods. But what replay-value has Crysis 1? None.
More to the point: If I want awesome grafics, I turn off my PC and go in the woods, sea, lakes etc.
All your named type of Games, OT, will kneel down to GW2 mechanics. Every single one. You will see.
Graphics was always the main part of the video game to have sucess in market, people is blind saying people dont care about graphics but they really care.
I don't know anyone who sinks the amount of time mmo's generally require, based on graphics alone. You might lure them with good/great graphics, but if the gameplay sux, you won't keep them. Video's of gameplay are lies, whatever you think you see, is going to look a lot better when you're actually playing the game. I don't think I've ever seen video or screen shots that looked as good as the actual game. And I'm not just talking about GW2, I'm talking about ANY game. I suppose, if a game looks like total shit, it might look even worse if you actually play it, but, I digress......... GW2 look just fine to me, and to most who are anxious to get there hands on it. And if the gameplay comes anywhere near, what it appears, then you're not going to get them to quit, just because you say, "Galaxie Wars of the Rings of Conan's Rifting Blade", are better.
Graphics was always the main part of the video game to have sucess in market, people is blind saying people dont care about graphics but they really care.
Graphics was always the main part of the video game to have sucess in market, people is blind saying people dont care about graphics but they really care.
Actually I could give two crpas about graphics. What matters to me is are the Aesthetics well done and does it suspend my disbelief, but more important is how well does the game play out.
But thanks for telling us objectively what's subjectively important.
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You are far from objective, you've been bashing GW2 left and right. Get your own goggles off and maybe you are worth discussing with.
It's not bashing when it is objective. It just seems like bashing to people who are way over the top in-love with the game.
The only one that can judge whether you are objective is a third party observer. Can think you're objective all you want, that doesn't make it true.
That is why most commentary really warrants the 'in my opinion' phrase inserted in there somewhere. Because even if you think you have as informed a point of view as possible you have to understand that you still have passive bias regardless of if you are aware of it.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
I think it's safe to say I'm not "in love with the game" just look at my post history. That said, there's a huge difference between being objective, and using subjective reasoning to put down everything you see.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Actually truly objective people can tell if they are being objective...
AN objective person tends to let all the cards fall before they cite the significance of their hand.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That...
Did you really just use that argument?
The best you can do is be aware of your bias, not be rid of them. Even in that case you can say what you think logically is best, but that is a matter of compensating for what you think your bias is.
Please don't say something that wrong again.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Yeah, i knida remember your old "objective" posts from a while back.
There are some people who actually have good points that are negative about the game as well but they actually bother to get informed about the game.
GW2 ain't perfect, no game really is but to me it looks about as good as Tera or any other modern MMO. It looks a lot better than Rift or TOR for sure.
But sure, take some good screenshots from GW2 and from a bunch of other mmos, show them for a bunch of people and ask them which one they think looked dated (use none MMO players so you are sure they have no prior opinions about any game). That would be fair.
No one who have prior knowledge and interests to stuff are truly objective...
Someone who never played a MMO most likely are though.
Getting tired of this kind of post , i realy think you can hang yourself
The game looks fine actuly looking stunning for a MMO so please stfu please ,
blade soul>tera>gw2
in terms of graphics blade soul and tera are outstanding, gw2 have average graphics they could launch the game for a ps2 plataform.
Just like your posts are logical because you are using logic and therefore are a logical person.
Do you know what a circular argument is?
It is this simple.
1. Only the person viewing can decide whether something is aesthetically pleasing or not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
2. If you're foisting your opinion on someone and trying to say that your subjectivity should be accepted by all as the only opinion. You're an arsehole. Yes, you Dinh.
3. Even journalists realise that their viewpoints are subjective in reviews, and act as such.
4. The videos are out there.
Conclusion: Click the videos in my sig. If you like what you see then the graphics are subjectively 'good,' if you don't then the graphics are subjectively 'bad.' There's nothing wrong with either opinion.
Yes, I also know that people fresh outta a phil 101 course think they understand logic.
Also, just FYI...
Graphical fidelity can be objective, but art cannot be objective. There are thousands upon thousands of reasons for htis and I don't want to have to take you through art school Dinh so you understand why that is.
To the OP. Have you ever seen the graphics in WOW? If so, why aren't you over there talkin' about crappy outdated graphics? Seriously, even the first GW looks worlds better than that craptacular manure farm. People think WOW is an acronym of world of warcraft, it's not, it's from all the reactions to it from people like me. Fire up the game, and "WOW, these graphics suck", or, "WOW, people pay a monthly fee to play this mess?", or, you get my drift.
Grafics... Who cares about grafics...
I've played every top A+ title since PC Games are released, almost every MmoRPG - Hell I played Rotmg (Realms of the Mad God) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLcAI6qSjew which amazed me for over a full month now. See the grafics?
Grafics are a minor argument. Not a major and of course you can not exclude it. The overall composition is what makes a game enjoyable.
It is gameplay, that lets you stick with a game - not grafics. If I want grafics I install Crysis 1 including lots of mods. But what replay-value has Crysis 1? None.
More to the point: If I want awesome grafics, I turn off my PC and go in the woods, sea, lakes etc.
All your named type of Games, OT, will kneel down to GW2 mechanics. Every single one. You will see.
Do not personally attack other users.
Graphics was always the main part of the video game to have sucess in market, people is blind saying people dont care about graphics but they really care.
I don't know anyone who sinks the amount of time mmo's generally require, based on graphics alone. You might lure them with good/great graphics, but if the gameplay sux, you won't keep them. Video's of gameplay are lies, whatever you think you see, is going to look a lot better when you're actually playing the game. I don't think I've ever seen video or screen shots that looked as good as the actual game. And I'm not just talking about GW2, I'm talking about ANY game. I suppose, if a game looks like total shit, it might look even worse if you actually play it, but, I digress......... GW2 look just fine to me, and to most who are anxious to get there hands on it. And if the gameplay comes anywhere near, what it appears, then you're not going to get them to quit, just because you say, "Galaxie Wars of the Rings of Conan's Rifting Blade", are better.
Actually beauty is not personal, its cultural, but whatever people.
Dear reader.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/graphics-vs.-aesthetics
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Actually I could give two crpas about graphics. What matters to me is are the Aesthetics well done and does it suspend my disbelief, but more important is how well does the game play out.
But thanks for telling us objectively what's subjectively important.
Graphics are not bad at all especially inside of towns or some outside areas do look very nice.
However if you compare it with FF14 than yes the graphics are outdated since a FF14 in max settings Blows away GW2 and FF14 is 1 year old already.
Yet FF14 is the best example as to why good graphics don't make a good game
Can we please wait until the game is released. We will not see the game on its highest setting until it's optimized.