How many fans you got and how much ventilation is in the place the computer is.
I always suggest putting the computer near a window and wall.
You should put a case fan (if you not got one) to blow air OUT of the computer.A common mistake is to keep the fan blowing in and you are just circulating hot air.
If all fails then put on a artic cooler(check web for sites for sale i only know UK sites) on the Gcard.
WARNING- changing a Gcard fan is at your own risk.Instructions are simple but have been know to fail if not done right.Also warranty is lost if you change the fan in most cases.
I have the fan on the window... I also have a Tornado 92mm CPU fan a SLK-900A for a heatsink and finally Arctic Silver 5. With these three items [which cost me around $60 total] my PC had dropped 15ºC! Yes! It's that much of a difference with me... so that's why I can easily hit these higher speeds with my CPU and videocard with no heat issues.
I've also downloaded the 5950U BIOS for my eVGA GeForce FX 5900. This turned my 5900 into a 5950U but the 5950U has 250MB RAM and faster core/memory speeds.
I also took that extra "headroom" I had and I clocked my videocard to some decents speeds... [check sig]
Anywho... just ask me... I can help.
I use a program called SpeedFan to check my temps. in Windows.
well im gettting a summer job, and im gonna use most of the money to build a comp. im gonna buy a p4 3.4 ghz. what mother board should i put it in, wats the best ram for it. and wats the best video card i can get for it. and wat king of cooling system, and power supply sould i get. Thanks for the help.
Originally posted by Djin You should have one or two fans blowing air OUT from the back. PCI fan will only blow air "around" in your system. I wouldn't get one.
*EDIT* Just get a better heatsink, a bigger fan and some Arctic Silver 5.
woops...
i see that bottom back fan is blowing out...but the top one is blowing in...
must be because i changed the top back fan and faced it in...uhhh, i better fix taht soon
Originally posted by rathma When i buy my computer and the PCI-E has still not released i will probably go with this: AMD athlon 64 3400+ [Overclocking it] 1GB ram GeForce FX 6800 Ultra 80 Gb Hard drive Not sure what cooling fan to get but i'm gonna need a good one. I'm going to overclock as much as i can to get the best FPS rates for gaming.
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The prices listed are the lowest I could find. If you decide to go with these and find a cheaper price, please let me know because I'm using the Zalman fan for my processor when I build a new system this fall. That is unless I find something I like better. Hope I helped you out.
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I finnaly got a job, this is the comp i wanna build
AMD ATHLON 64 3400+ 2 gb ram 120 gb hd and i got the case allready
now come the questions. 1)how far can i overclock it 2)Whats the best kind of ram for it. 3)What motherboard should i use 4)What cooling system? 5)What power supply? 6)Whats best video card to put in it? 7)Anything else you can think of. Im just learning about building computers so please help.
Originally posted by Gunblade Also rathma, why are you going to overclock your amd 64 cpu? that computer alone gets better frames than the same system just a 9800 pro or 5950 ultra...better by 50-70% which is about 40-60 frames and i am talkin like 1600-1200 AA at full manually. ______--}====>_____ |_105th Panzer Brigade_| http://wraithclan-online.tk
Because i'm aiming for something that will run EQ2 with a reasonable 20 fps if possible.
Alrighty i've been browsing some sites and i was able to fully pimp out a PC without going over the 2000 dollar barrier(keep in mind that's canadian too).
2GB PC3200 Dual Channel Memory(yeah, it's alot. But going from 1GB to 2GB was mad cheap, mathematically i had to do it )
120GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) IDE Hard Drive
80GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) Hard Drive (Hard drive 2)
8X DVD-/+ R/RW Drive Black
15" Black LCD Monitor
Apparently they did not have GeForce 6800 Ultra to choose from at the moment (isn't it out yet?). Anyways, that looks like what i'll be getting if i add in a 6800 Ultra.
Originally posted by rathma Alrighty i've been browsing some sites and i was able to fully pimp out a PC without going over the 2000 dollar barrier(keep in mind that's canadian too). AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ w/ HyperTransport Technology 2GB PC3200 Dual Channel Memory(yeah, it's alot. But going from 1GB to 2GB was mad cheap, mathematically i had to do it ) 120GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) IDE Hard Drive 80GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) Hard Drive (Hard drive 2) 8X DVD-/+ R/RW Drive Black 15" Black LCD Monitor Apparently they did not have GeForce 6800 Ultra to choose from at the moment (isn't it out yet?). Anyways, that looks like what i'll be getting if i add in a 6800 Ultra.
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cool cool, just why why IDE drives? why not sata That was the first type of frive i checked for, i don't think i saw SATA as a choice. And you want the PCI-E edition of the 6800? I haven't checked the Price on the PCI-E edition but it would be stupid if i didn't buy it .and lastly this is a pure gaming machine? Cause that is a lot of space for one + the LCD why? that is expensive and shit for gaming. The LCD is a space issue. If i get a bigger desk in my room i'm changing to CRT. and as for alot of space.... This is my main comp so all my programs, movies (that are 1GB in space each) and stuff will be on it. Heh, i've already used 40 Gigs on this comp and it looks empty.....
Originally posted by MurtBijani uhhh is this bad...? cause I know it is pretty high... Temp2 56 degree's C. Temp1 -48 degrees C. Temp3 35 degrees C. Remote temp 8 degrees C.
Originally posted by MurtBijani uhhh is this bad...? cause I know it is pretty high... Temp2 56 degree's C. Temp1 -48 degrees C. Temp3 35 degrees C. Remote temp 8 degrees C.
I went to AMD's site and read the Athalon 2500+ tech manual, and it has an operating temperature range of 0 degrees C to 85 degrees C. Maximum operating efficiency for your processor is slated around 50 degrees C to 65 degrees C.
Your Radeon 9800XT card's operates most efficiently at between 52 degrees C and 65 degrees C according to ATI and some other article I've read.
I would say your within the operating parameters of your board, processor, and vid card. I would also say that you are maintaining a temperature that allows your system to operate at maximum efficiency.
Are you having problems running at these temperatures?
"The probability of someone watching you is porportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law
Need some help. I just got into the WoW beta and I'm looking to buy a computer to play mainly that game. I've only got 700 bucks max to spend but I already have a 19" flat panel display and Radeon 9600 XT video card which I got as gifts. I have a real good ethernet connection but I don't really know much about computers so I was wondering what are the best specs I could get for that price and what brand to buy. Should I get a Intel P4 and what speed? Ram? etc. Like I said, I don't really know too much and I only got 700 bucks so the more detailed your opinions are the better . Thanks.
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I have an overheating problem
my graphics card keeps overheating when i'm playing L2 or any other game for a long time...
I have put the soundblaster audigy 2 in the bottom pci slot..so that isn't interferring...
suggestions to "make it cooler"
anyone know how to tell the temperature of it
?
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How many fans you got and how much ventilation is in the place the computer is.
I always suggest putting the computer near a window and wall.
You should put a case fan (if you not got one) to blow air OUT of the computer.A common mistake is to keep the fan blowing in and you are just circulating hot air.
If all fails then put on a artic cooler(check web for sites for sale i only know UK sites) on the Gcard.
WARNING- changing a Gcard fan is at your own risk.Instructions are simple but have been know to fail if not done right.Also warranty is lost if you change the fan in most cases.
Murt... I've shown you my case before? It's a Chieftec server case.
I have the fan on the window... I also have a Tornado 92mm CPU fan a SLK-900A for a heatsink and finally Arctic Silver 5. With these three items [which cost me around $60 total] my PC had dropped 15ºC! Yes! It's that much of a difference with me... so that's why I can easily hit these higher speeds with my CPU and videocard with no heat issues.
I've also downloaded the 5950U BIOS for my eVGA GeForce FX 5900. This turned my 5900 into a 5950U but the 5950U has 250MB RAM and faster core/memory speeds.
I also took that extra "headroom" I had and I clocked my videocard to some decents speeds... [check sig]
Anywho... just ask me... I can help.
I use a program called SpeedFan to check my temps. in Windows.
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thanks hercules
yes djin, i've seen your silver case :P
hmm...i was thinking of getting a pci fan..do those push air out?
because all my fans are shooting air into it..lol
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*EDIT*
Just get a better heatsink, a bigger fan and some Arctic Silver 5.
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well im gettting a summer job, and im gonna use most of the money to build a comp. im gonna buy a p4 3.4 ghz. what mother board should i put it in, wats the best ram for it. and wats the best video card i can get for it. and wat king of cooling system, and power supply sould i get. Thanks for the help.
When i buy my computer and the PCI-E has still not released i will probably go with this:
AMD athlon 64 3400+ [Overclocking it]
1GB ram
GeForce FX 6800 Ultra
80 Gb Hard drive
Not sure what cooling fan to get but i'm gonna need a good one. I'm going to overclock as much as i can to get the best FPS rates for gaming.
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
how do you overclock the cpu? i have a 733 mhz p3 i think. and i want to over clock it. and what is the best brand of ram?
woops...
i see that bottom back fan is blowing out...but the top one is blowing in...
must be because i changed the top back fan and faced it in...uhhh, i better fix taht soon
http://www.facebook.com/murtb
I would recommend the Zalman CNPS7000A-CU HSF cooling fan. It cools at 2400rpm, 12V @ 25dba, H-21mm x W-23mm x D-200mm. It sells for $38.00 US at http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=3133
For the case, Vantech SF8025L Double Ball Bearing Case Fan. It cools at 2050rpm, 12v @21dba, H-80mm x W-80mm x D-25mm. It sells for $8.03 US at http://grabber.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?ItemID=18597
The Zalman fan has been out about 6 months now, and if you want to read a review about it: http://www.cooltechzone.com/reviews/cooling/cnsps_1.php
The prices listed are the lowest I could find. If you decide to go with these and find a cheaper price, please let me know because I'm using the Zalman fan for my processor when I build a new system this fall. That is unless I find something I like better.
Hope I helped you out.
"The probability of someone watching you is porportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law
uhhh is this bad...? cause I know it is pretty high...
Temp2 56 degree's C.
Temp1 -48 degrees C.
Temp3 35 degrees C.
Remote temp 8 degrees C.
http://www.facebook.com/murtb
I finnaly got a job, this is the comp i wanna build
AMD ATHLON 64 3400+
2 gb ram
120 gb hd
and i got the case allready
now come the questions.
1)how far can i overclock it
2)Whats the best kind of ram for it.
3)What motherboard should i use
4)What cooling system?
5)What power supply?
6)Whats best video card to put in it?
7)Anything else you can think of.
Im just learning about building computers so please help.
Thanks for the help.
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
Alrighty i've been browsing some sites and i was able to fully pimp out a PC without going over the 2000 dollar barrier(keep in mind that's canadian too).
AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ w/ HyperTransport Technology
2GB PC3200 Dual Channel Memory(yeah, it's alot. But going from 1GB to 2GB was mad cheap, mathematically i had to do it
)
120GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) IDE Hard Drive
80GB Ultra ATA (7200rpm) Hard Drive (Hard drive 2)
8X DVD-/+ R/RW Drive Black
15" Black LCD Monitor
Apparently they did not have GeForce 6800 Ultra to choose from at the moment (isn't it out yet?). Anyways, that looks like what i'll be getting if i add in a 6800 Ultra.
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
cool cool, just why why IDE drives? why not sata That was the first type of frive i checked for, i don't think i saw SATA as a choice. And you want the PCI-E edition of the 6800? I haven't checked the Price on the PCI-E edition but it would be stupid if i didn't buy it
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Wow, i just found out the GeForce 6800 Ultra is going to cost me like 700 dollars..... Thats alot for just a graphics card.
I will be getting the X800 pro at a more reasonable price. I might even overclock it
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
I went to AMD's site and read the Athalon 2500+ tech manual, and it has an operating temperature range of 0 degrees C to 85 degrees C. Maximum operating efficiency for your processor is slated around 50 degrees C to 65 degrees C.
Your Radeon 9800XT card's operates most efficiently at between 52 degrees C and 65 degrees C according to ATI and some other article I've read.
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/gexcube-radeon9800xt
I would say your within the operating parameters of your board, processor, and vid card. I would also say that you are maintaining a temperature that allows your system to operate at maximum efficiency.
Are you having problems running at these temperatures?
"The probability of someone watching you is porportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law
thanks rabid...
a couple more questinos for anyone
i ordered this (it shipped today)
now...i was wondering
since it says application for amd xp 3200 and higher....and i have a 2500, can i still use it?
plus, all i have to do now is to remove my current heatsink and fan, scratch off the grey, apply new artic silver in that grey area and attach this?
is it a good heatsink?
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Need some help. I just got into the WoW beta and I'm looking to buy a computer to play mainly that game. I've only got 700 bucks max to spend but I already have a 19" flat panel display and Radeon 9600 XT video card which I got as gifts. I have a real good ethernet connection but I don't really know much about computers so I was wondering what are the best specs I could get for that price and what brand to buy. Should I get a Intel P4 and what speed? Ram? etc. Like I said, I don't really know too much and I only got 700 bucks so the more detailed your opinions are the better
.
Thanks.
ok Well i'm assuming you don't want to buy parts and build it yourself.
Here is my suggestion...
www.ibuypower.com
you can get a system with a crappy video card (if u want to use the one u got) and just replace it. No need to get a monitor either.
I would reccomend either an amd with 2500 cache, or a p4...whichever fits your budget
if you have only 700 bucks to spend, you're looking at 512 pc 3200 ram...
you'll get a 80gb hard dd and everything etc.
ask if more questions arise
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