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Guild War 2 Might Cost you more than you think
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You are given 1 4 slot bag early on, and can buy 4 slot bags for practically nothing, so you end up with initial storage of 1 8 slot bag and 4x4 slot bags (I think that's right) and you really don't get crafting training until around level 8-10, but along the way you're gathering mats which are easily stored in your bank vault, so by the time you pick your crafts you can usually make 1-2 bags/boxes/backpacks. Put another way, space really isn't that much of as long as you clear out the trash occasionally in one of the many outposts you walk into. At least that's my experience.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
You can mail crafting materials right to your bank. In fact there is a section crafting materials go right into in your bank I believe. So you never have to run back and deposit, you can do it from anywhere. Bags won't get full so easy!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Also, if you're going to have so many 80's, you'd think one could grind enough gold along the way to at least pay a certain % of that cost with ingame gold. Having that many 80 means you'll be playing alot, so the time issue with casuals doesn't fly here.
I guess my only question is how exactly is any of this a HIDDEN cost? It's been known that there would be a cash shop in GW2 and that ANet would sell things in the cash shop.
They sold extra character slots in GW1. Not to be too nit-picky, but 5 character slots was pretty standard in the earlier days of mmos. I'm an altoholic, and I will most likely buy 3 additional character slots for all 8 classes, but compared to what I pay for per year for a sub, the cost of the three extra slots will still be less.
As other's have said, there is plenty of storage in the game already. If you are such a pack rat that you need to buy up all additional storage options, well that's fine. It's your choice. I can choose to not buy the extra storage, and just sell off more stuff more often. Hell, it might even force me to AH more stuff and not save it for a rainy day, hence allowing me to have more purchasing power via in game gold.
I guess at the end of the day, it all comes down to choices and personal responsibility. Some people can't control themselvs, other's can. I still haven't seen anything that remotely screams that you will HAVE to visit the cash shop for anything in game. That's all that really matters. The reality is that I could spend $15 per month in the cash shop and incur no more cost than a typical sub mmo, except...I can choose not to and still play the game.
You'd be surprised. I was running around w/ full bag slots (some of the bags being epic bags w/ more slots) and multiple salvage kits. Ya, those salvage kits didn't last long, lol.
I don't think ANet has ever stated the game is free to play. There's been the phrase Buy 2 Play attached to GW2 for quite awhile. The part I turned red only reflects your choices, and your apparent lack of self-restraint. It's not ANets fault you can't curb your own spending.
Hah! Salvage kits are the "hidden" cost inside the game. I go through those things like they're nothing :P
Starter backpack is 20 slots. So you have 24 slots by level 2.
Honestly, if you can manage to hold off, you can save a few coppers by not buying 4 slot bags (Sure, it's not much, but I'm SUPER cheap) and go straight to crafting 8 slot bags the first chance you get.
Probably get a 5 slot bag as a drop fairly early as well, maybe one as a personal story reward if you're doing that.
I really enjoy crafting...but even more, I like to make things that are useful to me....Kinda my own self sufficiency. I am sure that there may be some really high end bags in the Cash Shop, but even in WoW, I made due with 16 slot bags for like ever and ever. Slowly replaced with bigger ones as they dropped.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Nono, it's not that the cash shop has bags.
The game has (Through crafting certainly, possibly through vendors or rewards) at LEAST 20 slot bags.
What the cash shop sells is extra slots to put bags in past the original 4. So you have backpack (20 slots) + 4 empty slots you can put bags in. So up to 100 slots of storage (20 slot backpack + 4 20 slot bags) that we know of.
Cash shop lets you buy another 3 slots to place bags in (So up to 160 storage space, assuming an extra 3 20 slot bags).
Also, crafting lets you make SPECIAL bags, which is kind of interesting.
Weapon/Armor bags (Weapon and armor first tries to go into this bag, though it can fill with other stuff too), material bags (Same thing, but for materials) and do-not-sell bags, where the contents of the bag doesn't show up when you go to the vendor.
I'm looking forward to making fun useful things with crafting!
I hope they have more ideas like that.
I'm going to get Meowhead to make me a bunch of bags then quickly flip those on the Ah and hope she doesn't notice. I will use my riches to buy gems and purchase a pirate outfit and walk around saying "Aaaaargh" all the time.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Hey I'm like that too! If I started a new player it was fun to try and make gold to by bags. I never took hand-outs.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I have also heard that Guild Wars 2 might not cost you as much as you think! Amazing, huh?
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
That outfit is awesome. It showd off my warrior butt very nicely. I think I spanked myself.
edit: spelling I'm tarded
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I think discussing options to save real money on bag space through crafting is on topic. It was my whole point of my initial question?
OMG I loved it. I was shocked when it saw it came with abilities in your weapon slots like summoning a parot. I was so excited that I started throwing money at my screen.
I realize that other posters have warned me about the evils of cash shops and that I needed to "fight the power" and "rise up against the man" and that me paying for a pirate outfit would allow me "to win" (though I'm still not sure what I win exactly) but I don't think these people have seen the power of the pirate outfit in action.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
In his opinion, in my opinion, in every (almost) all GW2 players opinion! You still don't get it do you? Of course not!
Yes yes, I will be paying more if I will be in need of storage slots , chars slots and such! Why do you care?
PS: I so don't like your avatar! Is that .. face looking like yours?
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I'm going to be on the RP server.
I am going to win at pirate RP.
People will be all 'arr, I'm a pirate', and I'll be like 'SCREW THAT. CASH SHOP POWER, ACTIVATE!'
... and bam, busting out my pirate emotes and laughing at them.
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See that parrot? SEE THAT? Totally worth every penny! Your parrot is emoted! Mine actually flies around! I'll win lead in the Lion's Arch production of Pirates of Penzance, without even trying.
lmao. Very good let me know when your first show will be!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Initially the folks at Arenanet stated that all they needed ro run their game was box sales. Now what we're getting is a free to play trap with an initial price tag.... thank you NCSoft.
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... there's never been a point in time where I DIDN'T know there was going to be a cash shop?
It's always been in the FAQ.
Dunno what to tell you. Sorry you're surprised about something they've mentioned since the beginning?
... what we're talking about is a B2P game that'll make some money on the side (= bigger profits = happier shareholders) through a cash shop that is optional.
U can trade gold for gems... so u dont need to pay for it if u dont want to, well thats what i hear.
so are you guys saying 130 slots isn't enough for one char?
20 [backpack]+20 [bag]+20 [bag]+20 [bag]+20 [bag]+30 [bank]+additional crafting slots in bank
It's not a trap if you don't need what's in the cash shop. So far, I haven't seen anything that is needed. I f you think you do, then it's because you are mistaking "want" for "need."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw