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Originally posted by Aelarus
But how about FINAL Fantasy? Was that the last of its genre?
Small aside, but the name Final Fantasy was picked because it was going to be Square's last game before bankruptcy, and the creator's last game before quitting the industry altogether. So the name does fit.
But how about FINAL Fantasy? Was that the last of its genre?
Small aside, but the name Final Fantasy was picked because it was going to be Square's last game before bankruptcy, and the creator's last game before quitting the industry altogether. So the name does fit.
Originally posted by thundercles Noticed James's account at the atavism website has been banned.
I hope james just makes a clean break and pursues his own goals.
James is a good guy who was in a bad situation and was in way over his head. With his tenacity and utter REFUSAL to give in, hes going to do well I would suspect.
EDIT- I think James has taken more shit here than any other dev or PR person and remained kind for the most part (we got him to snap back a few times lol)
Originally posted by Dreamo84 How anyone thought this guy had any idea how to make an MMORPG is beyond me.
Exactly.
What surprises me though, after reading through this Skype transcript between James and Jason is that it was less of a scam than I thought. It's pretty obvious that they were trying to work on it... in the same scary way someone might watch a movie about brain surgery and decide that he can take out his dog's brain tumor himself.
"Trying" is a just a nice way of saying "Planning to fail." - My Old Man
I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.
I'm sure its been said, but its more than a little ironic that a game called GREED MONGER is having financial problems. Come on the writing was literally on the wall. How did you guys not see this one coming?
Many legit indie developers will defietly hurt from that. But it is backers fault too. I ask, who, with common sense, would think that someone can make fully developed MMO with only 30k $?
Anyways, let dis a be lesson for future backers, to do more research, before they throw some money at the screen.
The amazing part is that some of you focus on the actual NAME of the project itself... GREED Monger... yes, I can see where you might read into that a little too deeply.
But how about FINAL Fantasy? Was that the last of its genre? Did many of us buy those games? Or should we not focus on the name itself and actually look at the hard facts? The man took money, contract-binded to pay for the development of what the KS campaign stated was to be used for, and didn't give any indication of what it was ACTUALLY used for... it's like a bad child support case! Open your eyes people! If any of you played/bought any Final Fantasy that may supercede or surpass the original... and you believe that the name implies that you are, in some form, and idiot... you are, in fact, a hypocrite... and just as guilty as anyone DONATING money to a company that could possibly have the audacity to POSSIBLY contribute to the gaming community outside the BIG companies.
Originally posted by Aelarus
Its kind of funny actually... Trolls will run their mouths instead of rallying behind a good cause that will push in the DIRECTION of protecting the little companies that will, in eventuality, turn into the large companies that have the capitol to distribute the games that we all love to play... get a fucking grip people and look at the big picture!
Originally posted by Aelarus Can you imagine the power the internet at large COULD hold if we rallied behind one cause in this particular case? Its just STUPID how much influence we all could hold... its not like anyone here is trying to be a dictator, just a kind of... union.
Hello Jason
Made a new account to honor us with your bullshit again, I see.
This guy has erased all traces of greedmonger from all his social media sites like twitter and facebook. This guy has multiple sites up ranging from web design, seo, real estate and nightclubs. This guy is just one big CON man.
This guy has erased all traces of greedmonger from all his social media sites like twitter and facebook. This guy has multiple sites up ranging from web design, seo, real estate and nightclubs. This guy is just one big CON man.
Next hell be trying to figure out how to get rid of the full arm tattoos so he can wear a suit and not look like a derp with his "tats" hanging out. How could you take this guy seriously?
You have to lose one or the other, you cant be all things to all people. Look im the crazy full arm tattoo guy. Look I'm the sophisticated investment guru. Somehow I doubt he's either, seems like an act in either case.
Originally posted by unclemo Jason Appleton needs to be arrested and tried for Fraud.
Good luck proving he had nefarious intent... in fact this thread alone have shown that it is most likley incompetence rather then anything else.
And to be fair... 100K is pocket change when trying to make a game... Once you paid for software, hardware, assets, utilities and at least one months paycheck (his own if no one else)... Not going to be much.. if anything left... Then you have upkeep and taxes on that.... I would be impressed if 100K lasted past 6 months.. let alone 2 years...
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Originally posted by goth1c IMO who should be ashamed is who donated the money not the guy who is runing whit is pockets full of it, but i sicnerly belvie when some one donates to a kcikstarter they alredy know the money is lost, so whats the big news, inst the 1st or will be the last... Keep donating guys.
Wow... I am sorry, but... Just wow...
But the red aside, Kickstarter has delivered all kinds of highly successful great games from passionate devs working in genres declared 'dead' by mainstream publishers.
So, yes, I will keep donating. I will keep making informed decisions and putting my money down to support grass roots development in PC games, comics, tabletop games, books, and whatever else I judge to be worth supporting.
Not once have I have my money lost or failed to receive what I paid into.
Saying that, Greed Monger was a shady setup from the start. I wouldn't have supported it even if the core concept was at all appealing to me.
Any gamer will be able to look at his shelf and say, "yep, that one was crap, I got sucked in" though, so I do have sympathy for the guys that got taken on this.
This guy really does put the Mortal Online shenanigans to shame... This might official beat their "the volcano ate our patch" excuse.
Yes that's him. The first Episode/Pilot aired already and you can watch it for free. Rumor say he got kicked because he asked for a $100K signing bonus to pay back Kickstarter debt
This guy has erased all traces of greedmonger from all his social media sites like twitter and facebook. This guy has multiple sites up ranging from web design, seo, real estate and nightclubs. This guy is just one big CON man.
He has been everything from a real estate agent to a successful night club owner, he even had his own magazine once (all according to him). Oh and he was going to become Governor at one point too.
Funny how everything he does involves his wife (she is in that video too). She is on the nightclub fliers etc. These two are serial scam artists. Beware!
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Small aside, but the name Final Fantasy was picked because it was going to be Square's last game before bankruptcy, and the creator's last game before quitting the industry altogether. So the name does fit.
this guy pulled a Curt Schilling on KS backers and got away with it.
Add this one to the list of lessons not yet learned.
Stop wasting money on promises and pay for finished and working products.
Really? I didnt know that.
Kinda cool.
I hope james just makes a clean break and pursues his own goals.
James is a good guy who was in a bad situation and was in way over his head. With his tenacity and utter REFUSAL to give in, hes going to do well I would suspect.
EDIT- I think James has taken more shit here than any other dev or PR person and remained kind for the most part (we got him to snap back a few times lol)
Much respect for james.
"Trying" is a just a nice way of saying "Planning to fail." - My Old Man
I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.
^this x 100
It´s all the backer´s fault believing that someone with no game development experience makes an MMO.
And here´s the kicker:
With only 30.000 bucks!
I mean come on. Even Raph Koster can´t make an MMO with 30.000 bucks.
fixed that for ya ;-)
Many legit indie developers will defietly hurt from that. But it is backers fault too. I ask, who, with common sense, would think that someone can make fully developed MMO with only 30k $?
Anyways, let dis a be lesson for future backers, to do more research, before they throw some money at the screen.
No joke... I heard that this guy's next "idea" is to join the cast of a new "swingers" reality TV show called Neighbors with Benefits.
From what I understand, Mr Appleton is the guy in black in the middle of this picture:
http://variety.com/2015/tv/reviews/tv-review-neighbors-with-benefits-1201453561/
This guy really does put the Mortal Online shenanigans to shame... This might official beat their "the volcano ate our patch" excuse.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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Greed Monger game was actually a scam from a greed monger.
How ironic!
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Hello Jason
Made a new account to honor us with your bullshit again, I see.
Wait wait wait...... Is this guy a bloody real estater now?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhGgcSQP_8
This guy has erased all traces of greedmonger from all his social media sites like twitter and facebook. This guy has multiple sites up ranging from web design, seo, real estate and nightclubs. This guy is just one big CON man.
Next hell be trying to figure out how to get rid of the full arm tattoos so he can wear a suit and not look like a derp with his "tats" hanging out. How could you take this guy seriously?
You have to lose one or the other, you cant be all things to all people. Look im the crazy full arm tattoo guy. Look I'm the sophisticated investment guru. Somehow I doubt he's either, seems like an act in either case.
Too bad the dude couldn't use words and just swore through the entire rant.
Couldn't finish it.
Glad I passed on this one...was interested in a UO successor but this seemed a bit "too" promising.
Im just gonna leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox1OYtojA30
Just... watch.
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Good luck proving he had nefarious intent... in fact this thread alone have shown that it is most likley incompetence rather then anything else.
And to be fair... 100K is pocket change when trying to make a game... Once you paid for software, hardware, assets, utilities and at least one months paycheck (his own if no one else)... Not going to be much.. if anything left... Then you have upkeep and taxes on that.... I would be impressed if 100K lasted past 6 months.. let alone 2 years...
This have been a good conversation
Retired and Solar_Prophet called it.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/806/view/forums/post/6106452#6106452
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Wow... I am sorry, but... Just wow...
But the red aside, Kickstarter has delivered all kinds of highly successful great games from passionate devs working in genres declared 'dead' by mainstream publishers.
So, yes, I will keep donating. I will keep making informed decisions and putting my money down to support grass roots development in PC games, comics, tabletop games, books, and whatever else I judge to be worth supporting.
Not once have I have my money lost or failed to receive what I paid into.
Saying that, Greed Monger was a shady setup from the start. I wouldn't have supported it even if the core concept was at all appealing to me.
Any gamer will be able to look at his shelf and say, "yep, that one was crap, I got sucked in" though, so I do have sympathy for the guys that got taken on this.
the type of show ill never care about. I do like his shorty wife tho.
Yes that's him. The first Episode/Pilot aired already and you can watch it for free. Rumor say he got kicked because he asked for a $100K signing bonus to pay back Kickstarter debt
/smh
He has been everything from a real estate agent to a successful night club owner, he even had his own magazine once (all according to him). Oh and he was going to become Governor at one point too.
Funny how everything he does involves his wife (she is in that video too). She is on the nightclub fliers etc. These two are serial scam artists. Beware!