Originally posted by Larsa Originally posted by tordurbar
MMORPG is split between two types of gamers: 1) those who favor sandboxes and 2) those who are looking for combat action rpgs. ...
There are certainly different types of gamers her…
Originally posted by jpnz Originally posted by Fikusthe4th
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by jpnz I will say that it isn't common to have 2 subs so most people will choose 1 game as a sub.
And so t…
Originally posted by jpnz Originally posted by Jorendo
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And what is massive in your eyes anyway? Cause i dare to bet that the sandbox crowd is still represented by millions of gamers, but there are so much more millions of main…
Originally posted by Icewhite Originally posted by jpnz I will say that it isn't common to have 2 subs so most people will choose 1 game as a sub.
And so they must be openly hostile towards any game except the one they chose? That's just..…
Originally posted by jpnz Originally posted by DarkPony
There was a huge anticipation for SWTOR though (despite drawing in many nay sayers too), and a huge anticipation for GW2 now.
Personally I bet most of those sandbox fans have played ev…
Originally posted by Xthos The themepark way of life is under attack!
The themepark way of life is committing suicide. The entire concept requires rewards and incentives to get people to do what they wouldnt normally do. Money is the only reward …
Originally posted by Irus The people who got trophies are min-maxers, silly. Casuals don't care about trophies... or gear, or "content" or "endgame" or "progression". People who care about that are, by definition, not casual. We go fishing and do qu…
Originally posted by palulalula Originally posted by Fikusthe4th
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by GrumpyMel2
Originally posted by Quirhid
I don't believe TOR has come ANYWHERE CLOSE to rec…
Originally posted by Quirhid Originally posted by Fikusthe4th
Originally posted by Quirhid
I estimated TOR costing 20 million to make. I think they recouped their initial investment as well. But im not a paid expert.
The New Yo…
MMORPG.com is a sandbox. Discussion is part of sandbox gameplay. You and anyone else is free to turn it into a themepark haven. Dont blame anyone else for it not being what you want in that regard.
Themeparks dont offer choice, there is nothing to …
Originally posted by Quirhid Originally posted by GrumpyMel2
Originally posted by Quirhid
I don't believe TOR has come ANYWHERE CLOSE to recouping it's development costs yet. Some back of the envelope math easly tells me that. More …
Originally posted by quasi_dead The debate about definition of sandbox, and the extent to which something is a sandbox appears to me to be a massive distraction. (So allow me to distract myself for a second) In a broad sense I suppose it alludes to …
Originally posted by Irus Originally posted by Stimos8
anyone who disagrees with the basic system is obviously one of those "easy mmo" fanboys.
Yes, of course. /sarcasm
And if permadeath doesnt mean adding permadeath to WoW it isnt …
Originally posted by Ashen_X Originally posted by exdeathbr
Originally posted by Ashen_X
I really don't get the point of this sort of thread. As you pointed out in the OP, anyone who wants permadeath of any sort in any MMO already ha…
If your not willing to lose it all you aint playin right bitches!! LOL @ U.
You say you play for fun, but you lie lie lie!!! You play for real, not for fun. Permadeath is the "Most Fun" any feature could provide if "some" would get their achievment…
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by Fikusthe4th When you add rewards you add risk automatically dont you?
Doesn't seem like it's risk unless it's something "bet" beforehand that you can lose. Such as flying any EVE ship into…
Originally posted by laokoko
Originally posted by Gajari
@OP
So Permadeath isn't niche because like 5000 people donated money?
Do you know what niche means?
Not to mention they might donate to themself. You know how people are.
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Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by Fikusthe4th Well, if complete wipes as a death penalty is the only true permadeath to you, then i guess there's not much else to learn from you atm. All your points seem to stuck there.
When yo…
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by Maelkor On a side note I mainly disagree with the statement about risk vrs reward and challenge vrs reward. In my opinion there is no challenge without risk. The greater the risk the greater the…