Mortal Online is for small skirmishes 10 vs 10 max because of the design, and also the features make it more RP oriented than real PVP (compared to the routine 100 vs 100 going up to 2k pvp fights in DF)
In terms of PVP DF is and will be for the forseable future #1, it was made for it from the ground up
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
Mortal Online is for small skirmishes 10 vs 10 max because of the design, and also the features make it more RP oriented than real PVP (compared to the routine 100 vs 100 going up to 2k pvp fights in DF)
In terms of PVP DF is and will be for the forseable future #1, it was made for it from the ground up
ITS A MAGIC CASTING FEST THATS CRAPPY!!!
With the expansion magic/melee/archery will be balanced out. Balancing is a big part of MMORPGs
EDIT: in MO its not even worth to cast magic or use a bow, a freaking month from their expected release date, who are you to talk
Mortal Online is for small skirmishes 10 vs 10 max because of the design, and also the features make it more RP oriented than real PVP (compared to the routine 100 vs 100 going up to 2k pvp fights in DF)
In terms of PVP DF is and will be for the forseable future #1, it was made for it from the ground up
ITS A MAGIC CASTING FEST THATS CRAPPY!!!
With the expansion magic/melee/archery will be balanced out. Balancing is a big part of MMORPGs
Yeah thats going off of what Tasos says you think i believe anything that lying BSer says, He has lied threw his teeth SO many times ill believe this UNTESTED Content patch will be flawless see most games open a TEST server not Tasos he tests in office and RElease the next day.
Along with them saying yeah 1 month after NA server launch we will do transfers about 5 months later he really dos it.
im not gonna sit here and list all the lies he has told and promises that where complete crap.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
I havent tried MO yet but from what i;ve read I would say DF over MO since in my experience with sandbox games they normally take a while after release to be atleast decent.
DF has been out a decent amount of time and is still trying to be more than a average game.
Give MO a year and maybe we could compare them fairly.
Tough call. There are so many factors in each game that others are missing. I can only account for the time that I played the games, but I don't think I had ever imagined something like DAOC until I had seen it. Aion had some large brawls as well, which were a blast.
WAR was even great. I enjoyed blasting people into lava and using terrain to my advantage.
Pre-BC I enjoyed WoW PvP as a rogue.
But all in all, the best PvP I ever played was in a MUD called Medievia. Skill, science, speed, math. It was a blast. Though in retrospect, because everyone could be all 4 classes at once, everyone had daggers at max level for the backstab ability. I guess if I could see this PvP graphically, it wouldn't be that great at all. Fun to play, though. Some zones were PK (standard contested) zones, others CPK (you can loot gear). Getting your gear stripped in that was not cool, as it took work to get it.
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
Honestly it's no freaking contest if you like the sci-fi setting and flying a spaceship you cannot beat a game that totally revolves around pvp like Eve Online. Games like WAR, AoC and Aion are half decent pvp games while I would have selected DAoC but since this vote is games in there current state I cannot.
Edit: I liked Darkfall also but I honestly dont know how anyone could select it over EvE unless they just hate the sci-fi genre.
I was going to vote Eve, but I havn't played it in years. I then noticed WW2 online, but Havnt played that in years either. In fact I havnt played Darkfall or reached the level required to play pvp in Aion.
I could be wrong but people go directly to this thread to see games are suggested for best pvp. Having to Vote in order to view the results will mess everything up. Results can not be accurate do to the fact everything listed has not been sampled by every voter. A poll should be constructed with an equation allowing the above circumstance to be considered.
No big deal if you take that into consideration and read the posts under thread when using the information to decide to try something new for pvp. Eve was a life long game (great game ahead of its time when it came out). Is it still or did they dumb it down to attract the masses? thanks
CONCORD reacts faster these days, but T1 ships are so cheap that you actually make a small profit from platimum insurance, so suicide ganking in hi-sec is rife. The 2 big differences I can think of that you might consider "dumbing down" were warp to 0km and the "Alliance P" nerf, when wardeccing was made much more expensive. There sure are lots of ships being lost. I guess EvE is a little easier to start playing now because the tutorial is greatly improved, and new players get a 100% training rate boost to 1.6M SP, and because the game is simply better documented (by players). But dumbed down? No. Other than those things I'd say that the game is if anything better and more complex. Wormhole space alone totally changed the game for thousands of players when CCP added ~2500 systems with no sovereignty and delayed local (you dont show in local unless you speak) that can only be accessed or left by probing out a wormhole - and the wormholes are not permanent at all... if you get stuck in W-space the GMs wont relocate you. The only way out is to self-destruct your pod.
If you used to play it and enjoy it, you should come and check it out again. The new expansion is out and I think it's the best it's ever been and about to get better.
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
The expansion will help that, but fact remains that this group held high ground with one way up. Waves of people were sent up there to an untimely death. I was there not using magic and was shooting a bow but only hit a few people.
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
The expansion will help that, but fact remains that this group held high ground with one way up. Waves of people were sent up there to an untimely death. I was there not using magic and was shooting a bow but only hit a few people.
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
2 minutes and 30 seconds of people shooting balls of light at each other?
And that's what you call better PvP.
PvP isn't just mass fighting.
It starts with 1vs1.
There's no depth in DF combat.
It's grind skills to purchase the next level of skill and then shoot at a mob of people.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
i bet 50 bucks he hasnt nailed that girl once or even close.
and i bet the last time you had sex was never to 8 years ago.
If you really want to know I had sex with a blonde bartender last night In hollywood, florida. That's mainly the reason I am here right now arguing with you instead of doing something more productive: I have a hangover
Ruyn is quite right, outnumbering your adversaries is a valid, realistic way to win in an FFA environment. The real question is: does the game provides ways to compete ? Politics, diplomacy are valid options to gather more people, and this is good because geopolitics is what FFA world is all about. The thing is: Darkfall, by putting player skill forward and allowing field tactics (terrain, disposition, etc... are very important), effectively allow you to win by outsmarting/outskilling an outnumbering enemy.
This makes the zerging option less frustrating when you have to fight against it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
2 minutes and 30 seconds of people shooting balls of light at each other?
And that's what you call better PvP.
PvP isn't just mass fighting.
It starts with 1vs1.
There's no depth in DF combat.
It's grind skills to purchase the next level of skill and then shoot at a mob of people.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
i bet 50 bucks he hasnt nailed that girl once or even close.
and i bet the last time you had sex was never to 8 years ago.
If you really want to know I had sex with a blonde bartender last night In hollywood, florida. That's mainly the reason I am here right now arguing with you instead of doing something more productive: I have a hangover
No no you don't, you where on the forums last night i can see your posts LOL.
Mortal has Way hotter blondes. and i Bet tasos NEVER even got close to taping that girl.
Swedish girls > Eww Greece girls
LOL thats not a DEV shes just a bimbo selling crap at gamecon and your sex starved MO dev with no social skills pleaded to have a pic taken with her. Look at his face, its the highlight of his life
Mortal has Way hotter blondes. and i Bet tasos NEVER even got close to taping that girl.
Swedish girls > Eww Greece girls
LOL thats not a DEV shes just a bimbo selling crap at gamecon and your sex starved MO dev with no social skills pleaded to have a pic taken with her. Look at his face, its the highlight of his life
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The thread is now about Darkfall Vs Mortal Online.
Release the fanboys!
ITS A MAGIC CASTING FEST THATS CRAPPY!!!
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You realise that this means war!
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
ITS A MAGIC CASTING FEST THATS CRAPPY!!!
With the expansion magic/melee/archery will be balanced out. Balancing is a big part of MMORPGs
EDIT: in MO its not even worth to cast magic or use a bow, a freaking month from their expected release date, who are you to talk
You realise that this means war!
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
ITS A MAGIC CASTING FEST THATS CRAPPY!!!
With the expansion magic/melee/archery will be balanced out. Balancing is a big part of MMORPGs
Yeah thats going off of what Tasos says you think i believe anything that lying BSer says, He has lied threw his teeth SO many times ill believe this UNTESTED Content patch will be flawless see most games open a TEST server not Tasos he tests in office and RElease the next day.
Along with them saying yeah 1 month after NA server launch we will do transfers about 5 months later he really dos it.
im not gonna sit here and list all the lies he has told and promises that where complete crap.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
LOL! You guys turned this into a DF vs MO topic?
Shit......
I havent tried MO yet but from what i;ve read I would say DF over MO since in my experience with sandbox games they normally take a while after release to be atleast decent.
DF has been out a decent amount of time and is still trying to be more than a average game.
Give MO a year and maybe we could compare them fairly.
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Tough call. There are so many factors in each game that others are missing. I can only account for the time that I played the games, but I don't think I had ever imagined something like DAOC until I had seen it. Aion had some large brawls as well, which were a blast.
WAR was even great. I enjoyed blasting people into lava and using terrain to my advantage.
Pre-BC I enjoyed WoW PvP as a rogue.
But all in all, the best PvP I ever played was in a MUD called Medievia. Skill, science, speed, math. It was a blast. Though in retrospect, because everyone could be all 4 classes at once, everyone had daggers at max level for the backstab ability. I guess if I could see this PvP graphically, it wouldn't be that great at all. Fun to play, though. Some zones were PK (standard contested) zones, others CPK (you can loot gear). Getting your gear stripped in that was not cool, as it took work to get it.
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
I was going to vote Eve, but I havn't played it in years. I then noticed WW2 online, but Havnt played that in years either. In fact I havnt played Darkfall or reached the level required to play pvp in Aion.
I could be wrong but people go directly to this thread to see games are suggested for best pvp. Having to Vote in order to view the results will mess everything up. Results can not be accurate do to the fact everything listed has not been sampled by every voter. A poll should be constructed with an equation allowing the above circumstance to be considered.
No big deal if you take that into consideration and read the posts under thread when using the information to decide to try something new for pvp. Eve was a life long game (great game ahead of its time when it came out). Is it still or did they dumb it down to attract the masses? thanks
CONCORD reacts faster these days, but T1 ships are so cheap that you actually make a small profit from platimum insurance, so suicide ganking in hi-sec is rife. The 2 big differences I can think of that you might consider "dumbing down" were warp to 0km and the "Alliance P" nerf, when wardeccing was made much more expensive. There sure are lots of ships being lost. I guess EvE is a little easier to start playing now because the tutorial is greatly improved, and new players get a 100% training rate boost to 1.6M SP, and because the game is simply better documented (by players). But dumbed down? No. Other than those things I'd say that the game is if anything better and more complex. Wormhole space alone totally changed the game for thousands of players when CCP added ~2500 systems with no sovereignty and delayed local (you dont show in local unless you speak) that can only be accessed or left by probing out a wormhole - and the wormholes are not permanent at all... if you get stuck in W-space the GMs wont relocate you. The only way out is to self-destruct your pod.
If you used to play it and enjoy it, you should come and check it out again. The new expansion is out and I think it's the best it's ever been and about to get better.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
The expansion will help that, but fact remains that this group held high ground with one way up. Waves of people were sent up there to an untimely death. I was there not using magic and was shooting a bow but only hit a few people.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
LOL that video supports my point LOL Magic magic pew pew pew pew pew. omg its sickning.
The expansion will help that, but fact remains that this group held high ground with one way up. Waves of people were sent up there to an untimely death. I was there not using magic and was shooting a bow but only hit a few people.
And whats fun about that?
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
He's not fat, but man he has one huge freaking head.
He looks like a bobble head!
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Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
Mortal has Way hotter blondes. and i Bet tasos NEVER even got close to taping that girl.
Swedish girls > Eww Greece girls
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
2 minutes and 30 seconds of people shooting balls of light at each other?
And that's what you call better PvP.
PvP isn't just mass fighting.
It starts with 1vs1.
There's no depth in DF combat.
It's grind skills to purchase the next level of skill and then shoot at a mob of people.
Lineage 2 has better pvp then DF.
WoW has better PvP then DF.
Vanguard has better PvP then DF.
And Mortal Online blows DF combat away.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
i bet 50 bucks he hasnt nailed that girl once or even close.
and i bet the last time you had sex was never to 8 years ago.
If you really want to know I had sex with a blonde bartender last night In hollywood, florida. That's mainly the reason I am here right now arguing with you instead of doing something more productive: I have a hangover
Yes. Here is an example of a smaller enemy using the terrain to their advantage: www.youtube.com/watch
2 minutes and 30 seconds of people shooting balls of light at each other?
And that's what you call better PvP.
PvP isn't just mass fighting.
It starts with 1vs1.
There's no depth in DF combat.
It's grind skills to purchase the next level of skill and then shoot at a mob of people.
Lineage 2 has better pvp then DF.
WoW has better PvP then DF.
Vanguard has better PvP then DF.
And Mortal Online blows DF combat away.
Thank you some one else with a working Brain YAY.
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Darkfall is, hands down, the best PVP MMO out there right now.
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And overall bitter old man.
Bottem line Tasos sucks and ill never give that fat ass any of my money EVER again.
Tasos is not fat
Looks fat to me trying to hide it with all that black tho.
You just mad he's getting ass from a hot blonde dev while you are here arguing that MO is a better PVP game than DF (roll on the floor laughing)
i bet 50 bucks he hasnt nailed that girl once or even close.
and i bet the last time you had sex was never to 8 years ago.
If you really want to know I had sex with a blonde bartender last night In hollywood, florida. That's mainly the reason I am here right now arguing with you instead of doing something more productive: I have a hangover
No no you don't, you where on the forums last night i can see your posts LOL.
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
TheVindicators.com
Mortal has Way hotter blondes. and i Bet tasos NEVER even got close to taping that girl.
Swedish girls > Eww Greece girls
LOL thats not a DEV shes just a bimbo selling crap at gamecon and your sex starved MO dev with no social skills pleaded to have a pic taken with her. Look at his face, its the highlight of his life
Mortal has Way hotter blondes. and i Bet tasos NEVER even got close to taping that girl.
Swedish girls > Eww Greece girls
LOL thats not a DEV shes just a bimbo selling crap at gamecon and your sex starved MO dev with no social skills pleaded to have a pic taken with her. Look at his face, its the highlight of his life
No Swedish girls are Hot and Easy.
Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13
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