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The truth about The Elder Scrolls Online.
1. It's not Skyrim Online. Repeat. It is NOT Skyrim Online.
Skyrim and Elder Scrolls lovers, you should not look at TESO just like the new chapter of The Elder Scrolls saga just with a lot of other players around you. If you think so, you will be disappointed. Creating a MMO is very different in creating a single player, in a single player you can do a lot of things just because you are the only human being playing, in a MMO some things cannot be permitted to let other people have fun (Killing NPC giving quests? no way. Modding every aspect of the game, from mob difficulty to graphical impact? No, everyone should play the same game. Just to name two game-breaking things in a MMO that can be done in a single player). But a single player game CAN be adapted to play at its best in a MMO environment, and Zenimax has done a good work, with a big world full of places to explore (and in TESO you will have to explore, you won't be taken from quest hub to the next hub by progressing in the main storyline), interesting quests, dungeons to discover, tresures with treasure maps, events changing the world (you are called to fight invasor setting the town in flames, and you see the town where you have been before with alla buildings in fire). There are a lot of things to do in the PvE environment, and every single part of the PvE environment, from characters to quests, from environments to visual style, resembles all of what you can have seen in Skyrim
2. It's not a WoW-clone. Repeat. It is NOT a WoW-clone
TESO is a themepark MMO. Yes. But it's in no way a WoW-clone themepark. First of all, in TESO there are a lot of sandbox/freedom elements, from the building of your character with skill progression, to the exploration of the world, from the user interface so minimalist and that leave a lot of space to look and be part of the environment to the action combat system. Players who want to play a WoW-like experience, try to approch to TESO with an open mind, lokk at what TESO can offer and give you, not what WoW does and TESO does in different ways.Try to look at TESO as a different way to think a themepark, a game where levelling is only a nice addition to a great playing experience, try not to think only at what you can do at level cap and try to have fun during the journy to level cap, try to adapt to the TESO UI and do not miss the screen fll of action bars, minimap, indicators, quest logs, combat logs and all other things that remove your attention from the beatiful world you are playing in.
I could make a 3rd point stating "it's not a DAoC-clone" because I'm sure that after release there will be a lot of threads full of features of DAoC missing or not working the same in TESO, but I did not play DAoC, nor I played AvA in TESO nor I am too interested in this aspect of the game, so I stop my wall of text here.
TL;DR: The Elder Scrolls Online is not Skyrim, is not WoW, is not DAoC. It's The Elder Scrolls Online, try to look at it with this in mind.
Now I am scared... really scared
Don't pay attention to him, the only threads being closed are blatant violations of teh NDA and the flame fests some individuals are mounting up in their psycothic crusade to 'destroy ESO' and save the world or something
Hell knows no wrath like a frustrated nerd (with small reproductive system)
Big difference between doing a beta survey and talking about it on open forums. Same as the beta forums I am sure. I am sure people say a lot of things there that obviously wouldnt fly here.
As for the comment above and 'trying to destroy ESO" LMAO yeah because random forum posters have that power. besides Zenimax is doing a lot more than every forum critic ever could think of doing in that regard.
LOL I didn't say you or others have a chance at that
I just said that that's what you think.... and that's the saddest part
Though really I was referrign more to jj82 and his 340 messages dedicated to "save the world from the abomination named ESO!!"
That guy is so full of it
PS If you had been in the stress test weekend you'd know how much bull your statement is
Being an ES fan since ARENA and also a beta tester of ESO, this statement is completely false. TESO has "similar" aspects to that of the single player games but they are nothing alike.
I love GW2 but I disagree. if you don't understand how ESO combat works is fine, if you didn't go round exploring is fine. Just don't make your personal opinions sound like a statement of truth because they aren't
I like ESO because it's what GW2 could have been and isn't. I just hope devs stick to their guns (unlike Arenanet and the gear grind debacle) and ignore people asking to make this game different from what it is just because they don't like it and don't know how to adapt
And jesus... ESO combat is AWESOME if you aren't completely useless at videogames
I wonder if this guy even believes the things he's saying lol. Have you played the beta? Color me a hater, but TESO delivers a very different experience when compared to that of the past TES games. It's not even close to what you claim, an online Skyrim. It's more like TES: The MMO. Also, saying that everyone who played Skyrim will buy TESO is a -huge- stretch. Why?
Because sub fees and MMO. Many players are not willing to pay for it, simple as that. It's not a matter of pricing, it's a matter of willingness.
Now, is TESO good? You bet it is, I'll be playing it alongside GW2. It's the next big thing in the MMO scene, and I am excited to explore it. But is it what you claim? Not for a minute, no. We can't be sure, but I see it going F2P already. There's just not enough MMO players out there to keep a sub game nowadays, is what I think. Too much too fast, so many games out there, it's hard to keep one player in one side long enough.
Dark Anchors are like dynamic events, free roaming is in TESO just like in GW2, obviously you will go in some zones where mobs are too powerful for you (take a level 10 char of GW2 to Orr....) and action combat in TESO is just an action combat, similar but not equal to the one in skyrim
TESO is TESO, but if you prefer playing GW2 the game is still open
I sold my GW2 after a month of playing, I did not like doing events without a single reson to do them only to zerg "big mobs", I want quests with a story and I want to feel I am the hero saving the world, in GW2 you are just a soldier amongs a lot of other soldiers.
I don't think subs will be a big problem, mostly thanks to their server architecture.
You see what 'kills' a MMO is usually:
1) people scream because they have a queue and scream till devs open another bazillion servers (where no one goes because everyone wants to play on the servers marke FULL
2) after 1 month locusts leave
3) servers starts to look empty because they have the population to fill 10 servers but the Ragers forced the devs to open 3 times that number
4)trolls and haters start to follow daily server status and graphing it to further prove that the "game is dying"
5) game 'dies' (translated for non retards: game keeps living and making money but it doesn't have 10 million players so it's a 'failure')
All of these points are less likely to happen because of the megaserver
Been in several of them actually. I stand by my statement.
But will add this, I doubt you have seen any other than the one this past weekend. So points of reference are non existent.
Oh they are and without going into details I know most people who hated the previous beta test fell in love with the changes in this one. You are just being a phony with your cagey remarks that say nothing. Just take a break and go to do soem hating in another forum
Change is good
Definetely
When people see the amount of bull that all you people have been spewing, you won't have an ounce of credibility left
And I'd love for you to point out my 'nda breaking' statements
Ah Jean Luc, it's gonna be so fun
Personally I cant wait to get this game.
The main draw to me is that I get to level to 50 in my original faction, exploring and taking my time collecting items and skill books. Completing all the quests. Then I can visit the next faction and everything there will be upleveled to 50 so I can explore even more maps, more quests and different regional enemies and still getting skill points/loot with a challenge. Then finally after I complete that one can do the 3rd faction and the difficulty is apparently even higher. After that its on to Cyrodill since im a big fan of the WvWvW such as GW2 and can entertain me for ages.
So that sounds like a lot of content straight away, a personal "end game" for me to reach. Mixing GW2 and Elder scrolls is a winning formula since I feel there will be more progression and actual expansions
Where do I present ESO like TSCoC??
I just said I like it more than GW2, a game I really like
I also stated that I prefer TESo combat, like many other people
I think you are somehow confusing me with the OP. I assure you,I don't share his optimism. I am just 'correcting' people bull FACTS (that are mostly wrong or misinterpreted)
For example, I am pretty sure you are confusing 2 different issues regarding combat, you know well what I am talkign about
When NDA falls people will see for themselves (like I did) and make up their mind
And you'll cry.. oh.. the rivers of tears j/k
PS would you like to pint me in direction of any of your positives because I am having a hard time finding them
Yeah, tell Picard that... I think ESO ate his dog
HIGHLY unlikely.
That's how I know you weren't in the last beta
I have yet to see ANYONE on this site, who is capable of presenting both negatives and positives... No need to paint this like it's all just ESO fanboys. This is on both sides of the fence.
Oh but there are plenty of negatives, for example I have to wait till 4/4/14 to play
If THAT's not a huge negative... now let's see haters doing teh same! I dare you say something positive!
If I wanted to break the NDA (and just make a new account to do it I would) but its not worth the effort. There were a lot of OBJECTIVE things not SUBJECTIVE things in both those betas good or bad. Not OPINION but actual factual things that would not or could not be denied.
Anyone who was in both of them knows what they were (both good and bad) and can make a logical comparison between both betas on a purely OBJECTIVE level.
But NDA doesnt even allow that. So it cant be commented on directly.
There are a lot of elements that probably ZOS doesn't want 'spoilered'. There might be other reasons that I am not at liberty to discuss, but from what I been said there were quite some changes in the last build (and no, this doesn't break NDA)
PS didn't GW2 NDA drop close to release too? I might be wrong
There is nothing OBJECTIVE about saying "I don't like this" or "This is $hit"
It's all down to personal opinions and taste. For example, I find WoW combat boring and uninspired, but a lot of people think it's the best there is (hopefully these will stick to wow and don't coem round)
True, and I didn't aim at you or anything. Just been following various ESO threads the last few days, and barely anyone manages to be in the middle. I have plenty of positives and negatives myself as well. It's just a shame they can't be shared because of the NDA, as you said.
On the topic of the NDA not being lifted yet and that being a bad sign. I suppose it could be perceived as such. I rather remain positive about that, however. Through the last few years, I've known everything about an MMO before I've even purchased it. So when I finally sit down with it and run around and explore... I already feel like I've seen and done everything. As one of the ESO developers said in a podcast regarding just this I believe, they felt it was best to keep it up, in order to maintain a sense of excitement and "newness" for new players. Eitherway, it's not like the NDA will last until release day, so people will no doubt have time to research and read about the games various features before they decide to preorder or buy once released. It's not like everyone is forced to buy ESO hehe.
So I guess to sum that up... I believe in companies maintaining an NDA for as long as they can. I think it's a good thing, for the sense of wonder and excitement it can create about a game. And to make it clear before anyone twists this into me blanketing this opinion as everyones, I'll just say: This is MY opinion. xD Seriously, people rail each other over tiny things on this forum. :-P
Not food for thought at all. Just a silly innuendo which, as you say yourself, can't be debunked properly due to the NDA.
There is not a single intelligent thing that can be surmised from the release date and the current NDA despite your insinuation and that of others here who love to spout the same nonsense.
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